Symmons P-112N Replacement Pop-Up Drain Rod Assembly

The actual ball and rod are high quality, which is what matters. I put one of these on a sink a few years ago and it's still going strong. Recently I had another old stopper rod break, so I got another one of these and replaced it as well.The only problem with this product is that there are no instructions. I had to remind myself how to install it, so I'm documenting it here to save you the trouble. I made a diagram that shows the proper installation order, and here are the instructions:0. Clean the existing pipe really well. (I recommend a toothbrush and paper towels.) If there's junk or rust where the rubber washer needs to seal against the drain assembly, you may get leaks. If rust gets between the nylon washer and nylon ball, it may tear up the plastic over time, also leading to leaks.1. Put the black rubber washer into the existing drain pipe. It helps form a water-tight seal between the ball assembly and the pipe There should be a recessed lip inside the drain pipe that it rests on.2. White nylon washer, cupped side out. It forms a water tight seal with the ball.3. Rod + ball. You may need to cut the rod with a hacksaw, angle grinder, or similar if you have limited space behind the drain.4. Screw-on cap. You may need to use the original one that came with the drain assembly, rather than the metal one that comes with this stopper rod. Hand tighten. It doesn't need to be super tight, since the rubber washer will seal things up, and over-tightening can damage the rubber over time.5. One side of the retaining clip, if you have one. (Some sinks use other mechanisms to attach the strap to the drain rod.)6. Strap that goes up to the drain opener/closer that's part of the faucet.7. Other side of the retaining clip.Tip: sometimes it's easier to loosely slip the cap over the rod and attach the rod to the strap first, then slip the whole rod + strap assembly into the drain pipe opening.

This worked perfectly. I didn't even need to add the rubber seal and bushing as the original didn't have them either, and I couldn't even install it with them on anyway as the screw cap wouldn't engage the threads unless I removed the seal and bushing. Checked for leaks and no leaks. Only neg is the price.I ordered at least three of these for all my bathroom sinks.

The product was an easy install, only taking about 5 minutes. It took longer moving the organizing baskets out of the way than the actual install. The only negative was the metal silver screw cap didn’t fit the inlet pipe orifice for the drain assembly. I had to use the one that was already on my sink piping.

Simple replacement job that a plumber would have charged over $200 to do.

Been looking for replacement rods for a little bit, but I don't feel that a metal rod and plastic ball are worth over 10 bucks each. (Or 20 bucks for a universal kit)These didn't have the size of the ball, and the Q&A wasn't clear. A few days after having them in my cart, the price went down to $4.30 each, so I decided to order them and see if they'd fit.First thing I did when I got them was measure the ball through the baggie they come in. After confirming they were the size I needed, I used them.These are the dimensions: (Also in the picture I added)The ball is16.35mm or 5/8 inches in diameter. (15.875mm is 5/8 inches, to be more exact))The ball is 14.3mm when measuring parallel to the rod. (9/16) (It has flat ends where it touches the rod)The diameter of the rod is 4.95mm (3/16)The short end is 34.5mm (1 & 5/16)The long end is 138mm (5 & 3/8)The short rod has a 2x1mm chamfer to it so the end has a cone-like shape.(Fractions to nearest easy to remember)

it was used to replace the deteriorated drain rod. it works as it should. just what the drain doctor ordered.

I bought this to replace one that broke, but the circumferenece is thicker than my old one and it doesn’t include a clamp. It wouldn’t fit through the clamp I already had. I had to jury-rig it to complete the install.

Fits our sinks and doesn't leak.