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K**.
A decent overview
As far as I can tell, the most satisfying among the Duel books are the ones in which actual weapon vs. weapon clashes are documented, preferably more than one. The trouble is, in some cases, there isn't a lot of documentation of such clashes on the level of tank vs. tank or plane vs plane.This volume does a good job with what were probably sparse pickings. The writing is clear, the artwork is good, and the descriptions of the two AFVs are clear and instructive. The actual battling is pretty sparse. That doesn't make it a bad book; there apparently isn't a lot of Jagdpanther literature/history out there. If you know that ahead of time, you won't be disappointed.
M**E
Range 40" RoF 1 AT16. Not according to this book.
This is one of the better in this Osprey Series actually covering not only the vehicles, their deployment, but actual combat against each other. Detailed enough to determine the SU 100 could NOT successfully engage German armor at 3000 meters despite its 100mm main gun; Soviet doctrine for the gun was to engage at up to 1500 meters when on the offensive and at 200-300 meters when defending. Easy to read, good drawings and photos. Excellent addition to a library on these two AFV.
G**6
Scary
We Americans tend to think we beat the Germans in WW2, but the Russians faced most of the German army from 1941 until 1945.
J**N
The operational history in this book felt more like a campaign overview that both vehicles happened to participate ...
While it had strong technical data on both vehicles I felt the operational history section was lacking. For example the Panther vs Sherman book, also by Osprey, really broke down the vehicles' operation performance against each other during specific engagements in the Ardennes. The operational history in this book felt more like a campaign overview that both vehicles happened to participate in. I personally would have preferred more specific discussion of the field performance of the Jagdpanther and Su-100 and how they compared.
A**R
THE ACTUAL COMBAT EXPERIENCE OF ONE VERSUS THE OTHER WAS LIMITED BUT INDICATED THAT THE JAGDPANTHER WAS THE SUPERIOR VEHICLE BUT
THE TECHNICAL AND DESIGN INFORMATION ABOUT THE TWO VEHICLES WAS INTERESTING AND THE MAIN PART OF THE BOOK. THE ACTUAL COMBAT EXPERIENCE OF ONE VERSUS THE OTHER WAS LIMITED BUT INDICATED THAT THE JAGDPANTHER WAS THE SUPERIOR VEHICLE BUT WAS OUTNUMBER SO THAT IT COULD NOT CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF THE BATTLE.
B**.
Really thorough comparison of the two weapons. It's not just a tidy tabulation of gun power and so forth.
A really thorough comparison of the two weapons. It's not just a tidy tabulation of gun power, armor thickness, engine horsepower, speed, numbers produced and so forth. It discusses the tactical and operational thinking behind the development of these two armored vehicles.
E**.
Research Starting Point
The neat thing about this book (like a few others that I've reviewed) is that it focuses on the 2 weapon systems, and how they performed. Thus, if you are researching either of the weapons (implicitly less interest in the battles), start here, then follow the sources.
M**W
Good but not great...
Like most of the "This vs That" books, the book was an interesting read. There were some good photos and some interesting technical information. I wish there was more excerpts about actual small unit actions these tank destroyers participated in.
C**S
Well worth having
This book is very good, and marred only by a few errors. David Higgins provides a very good technical survey, a very readable account of these vehicles’ use in combat, organisational details, and gun performance data – so often overlooked by writers yet the ‘business end’ of any AFV. The artwork is excellent, and the comments about camouflage while concise are accurate and helpful to modellers. I particularly like the author’s depth of knowledge the problems of armour plate manufacture that bedevilled German industry in the later war years, his correct understanding of German terminology and – for a change in an Osprey publication – correct German spelling. Similarly, although David is an American citizen, the book is written with British spelling which I think is only right for a book published here. My only gripe is the unfortunate use by many authors, not just David, of the imprecise term ‘HVAP’ (High Velocity Armour Piercing) instead of the equally concise but more descriptive APCR (armour piercing composite rigid) or – for British wartime guns – APDS (armour piercing discarding sabot).The errors are as follows. Page 29 states that the German Pzgr 40 APCR round “had a smaller explosive charge” than Pzgr 39 APCBC/HE round. In point of fact, APCR and APDS shot had no explosive fillings; they were inert as “shot” as opposed to “shell” implies, and fitted only with a tracer to aid gunnery. A cavity filled with explosive would have been self-defeating, as it would have weakened the structure which already had enough impact stresses to overcome, and a fuse would be similarly challenged. Moreover, any HE filling would be lighter than solid metal, thereby reducing the weight of the projectile and so degrading long range performance even further, which in APCR shot at least was already badly affected by the adverse light weight-to-large calibre ratio. On this page, David has not translated ‘Stahlkern’ (steel core) or ‘Weicheisen’ (soft iron, or sometimes taken to mean pure iron).The lower photo on page 34 is incorrectly captioned, as the tank is a later production M4A2 75mm Sherman, and not an M4A2 (76) W [76mm gun with wet stowage] as stated. The appliqué armour on the hull side near the front to protect the ammunition bins is distinctive, as is the turret shape and the split cupola lid and the handrail in front of this. Finally the turret itself is the 75mm pattern, which was both smaller and rounder than the T 23 turret used on the 76mm Shermans.The upper photo caption on page 51 is also incorrect; the standard towing vehicle for the 88mm FlaK 18 or 36 was the 8-tonne SdKfz 7, and not the 12-tonne SdKfz 8 as stated. On page 59, the photo caption is also incorrect; the vehicle in the left forewground is a SdKfz 250 alt light halftrack, and not the larger SdKfz 251 medium APC as stated. The other vehicle to its left is not an SdKfz 7 8-tonne prime mover, but rather the smaller SdKfz 10 1-tonne halftrack used to tow the smaller anti-tank guns.On page 73, the gun performance data gives no figure for the complete Pzgr 40 APCR round, and most sources fail to quote it. However, at least one source states that the complete round weighed 19.9 kg. Other sources give slightly different projectile and complete round weights, and the 88mm penetration data quoted in other sources often gives a higher performance, though David's are probably more realistic values.Overall, a fine effort.
N**H
Nice but loses focus of the 'duel' aspect
The Duel series is a firm favourite of mine and I have bought most of the tank related books. Based on the titles of the books, the buyer can hope to expect that the focus will firmly be on the two vehicles named and hopefully be able to read of detailed incidents of their performance in the same battle and if not, then at least how they compared in similar actions. I have noticed that some of the Duel titles can wander away from the core subject at times and in such slim volumes, this can be quite a distraction.Unfortunately, this is very much the case here as the narrative starts to give way (substantially) to the campaign in Hungary and the subsequent westwards advance of the Soviet armies, with much of this general history being centred at the corps and divisional level and it feels that when the Jagdpanther or SU-100 are mentioned, it is almost incidental. It actually feels like two different books rolled into one, a mix of general history and one of technical specification.I really feel disappointed that I am highlighting the negative aspect of the book, as I really like the writing style of David Higgins. His work is informative and enjoyable to read, it is just that it wanders away from the subject that I thought I was buying into. I don't particularly feel this is the fault of the author, but I would have hoped that Osprey could have kept this on track and I think that Osprey need to decide what exactly they want this series to do as I recently experience a similar issue with the panther Vs sherman book that wandered off into the Bulge campaign. To date Panzerjager Vs KV-1 seems to have been the best of the tank based books that I have read.For an enjoyable read, or if you would like to know some general history on the 1944 / 45 east front operations or if you collect the series, then the book can be recommended. If you are specifically interested in seeing a substantial description of how these vehicles operated at the tactical level, then too much of the thin volume may leave you disappointed. For the actual authors work, I would be happy to go with 5 stars, to satisfy my interest in the title subject, I am regrettably only able to offer 3 stars.
J**N
Mmm
Interesting subject, but it just never caught my imagination. I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. There isn't enough Jagdpanther vs Su100 in it, just two parallel histories and descriptions in the one book. I love this series though.
M**K
Five Stars
great purchase, well pleased with the book
A**R
Five Stars
Excellent new condition.
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