Moen R8936W Bathroom Safety 36-Inch Grab Bar with Concealed Screws, Glacier White

I've got nothing bad to say about the bar itself, but the information here is very misleading--this does NOT come with the SecureMount anchors. Yes, it comes with wood screws, but those will only be useful if you have studs located exactly where you need them--which is unlikely to be the case, especially for the bars that are not in length multiples of 12". The SecureMount anchors work like a champ--in both drywall and through synthetic marble--if you have the appropriate 1.25" hole saws, they are easy to use, very secure, and well designed (even has integrated gaskets for when you mount them in the shower). I was able to install 4 bars (2 in drywall, 2 in synthetic marble) in less than 1.5 hours using the SecureMount anchors. But those SecureMount anchors will set you back $20+ per pair, which sucks when you think that they come included with these grab bars. 5 stars for a good grab bar, minus 2 for misleading descriptions and thereby a misleading overall price.

Wow! Great product! The "peened" section makes this bar ideal for wet areas. I installed this in our master bathroom shower. The "peened" section allows for a great grip, even when the bar is wet. Grab bar looks great and functions excellent! The 36 inch Grab Bar was installed on the long shower wall and the 24 inch Grab Bar was installed on the short (below shower head) wall.If you are mounting the grab bar to ceramic tile, make sure you get diamond tipped drill bit to drill the holes. I used two (2)  Moen SMA1015CH, Home Care Securemount Anchors, Chrome  so, I needed a 1/4" diameter diamond tipped drill bit and a 1-1/4" diameter diamond drill bit. Drilling the holes was easy. Follow the instructions to make sure the holes are drilled in the correct place. It took me about one (1) hour to install two grab bars.

I started this project with a 36" grab bar from a big box store (32 inch bars were simply not available at any brick and mortar store anywhere—even online). I knew that I would have to end up positioning the 36" bar on a diagonal due to the studs being on 16 inch centers; however, the angle that resulted was too steep to be of practical use in a stand alone shower. Had it been a tub/shower combo, the diagonal might have made sense. So I was glad that Amazon could ship me this 32" bar very quickly. The quality is identical to the big box brand. I was able to attach each end of the bar with two screws. I've included a photo of the tools I used for the installation. Professionals will probably laugh, but hey, if you've got 'em, and they help you to do a better job more comfortably, then use them. I wouldn't go out and buy a hammer drill if you don't have one for this project, but it probably reduced the time I needed to drill through the tile. This was my first occasion to use the C.H. Hanson magnetic stud finder. It could not find the nail through the tile, but quickly did so on the wall above the tile, and I used a 4 foot level to extend the line from the pointer on the stud finder down the length of the stud over the tile. This project probably took me about half an hour to complete.

By design it's hard for a grab rail to go wrong. It's fine and strong and looks good. The shipping of the grab bar (Amazon's boxing) is a different story. I imagine the person who put the grab bar in the shipping box thought – "Well this is very solid steel and should survive any trials during shipping, so I'll just place the item loose in the box without any cushioning or bubble wrap." But, it is clear to me that shipping boxes do get placed down hard at times during transit, and this was obviously the story with this shipment. One of he clean looking caps, at one end of the grab bar was dented badly. The caps are made from a much thinner gauge steel. They need not be as sturdy as the grab bar itself since they are cosmetic and are intended to cover up the screw hardware that holds the bar to the wall. I needed to put the bar into service right away because my wife was coming home in a wheelchair and I needed to prepare the bathroom – so I didn't complain or demand a replacement to be shipped. Instead I spent a good while with pliers and hammer to reshape the cap so that it would fit again and do its job covering the screws. It's not beautiful. The ding is mostly hidden by the fact that bath towels hang on the grab bar most of the time but the ding is there. The rest of the bar and the cap at the other end looks just fine.

While the stainless bars without covered endcaps are cheaper, these allow for more flexible placement of the screws, which is good when trying to hit a stud in the wall or go through the grout line rather than the tile. We positioned these on both sides of the toilets and on each wall on the first stud outside the shower. The bars on the sides of the toilet are positioned horizontally to aid in lowering onto the toilet and raising back up while the bars next to the shower are positioned vertically to aid transitions in and out of the shower.We used a separate product, attached with suction cups, in the shower to avoid drilling the tile and grout. Both our seniors appreciate this help, one due to arthritis and the other due to a knee injury. Well, I suppose we're seniors too, but just young seniors ;-). I suggest installing these as soon as your seniors will agree to let you do so.For the garage, we used a different solution, installing stair railing on the wall in an L shape approaching and then alongside the doorway and step. There are lots of you-tube videos showing various placements, and they come in many lengths. We used all 24" grab bars except in the garage and shower as noted.We also attached two 24" stainless grab bars to a post and installed a second post two steps below to create a needed two-step stair railing for a dining/sunken den transition. We used a wooden platform upholstered in carpet in front of a stair to create a wide enough step to hold a person and a walker, and also used stair railing on the sides to allow walker-free assistance for two step transitions in the bathroom and family room.

High quality grab bar. Capable of holding a lot of weight. Make sure you hit a stud and use stainless steel screws though. Pilot a small hole before driving a long screw. This stops the screw from breaking off before driven in all the way. You should know where you put blocking before tiling your shower and use a diamond dry bit on low speed to cut through the tile. The bit should be larger than the screw threading so you don’t break the screw while driving it into the stud. You can squirt some silicone into and over the screw heads to stop water from penetrating the framing and rotting out the stud.

The circular flange to screw in place to wall provides unlimited spots for the screw. Used a slightly smaller screw to drive into studs and also used a thin small washer. Most handy persons will have no problem. But if attaching onto tile getting the studs found and exact width is difficult. Do one pilot hole first to make sure you get the stud then make sure next is only about 3/4 to 1 in to the side.

I installed it in the bathtub/shower at an angle on the long wall so that it can be used for support while taking a shower and for support to get up when I'm taking a bath. I really like it. The grab bar has a large diameter and I thought it might be too big, but it's just fine. The bar is nice and solid. There are six holes on each end to screw the bar into the wall so there are lots of leeway to get the stud behind the wall if you get one screw that is off. Then the cover plate covering the screws just snaps into place. I use the grab to to help myself get upright after a bath, and also as a support to get into the bath/shower and as a safety bar while taking a shower. My only regret is that I waited this long to get the grab bar.

El artículo es muy bueno, el material es de buena calidad y trae los tornillos para colocarlo, sin embargo no trae taquetes. Me da la impresión de que están hecho para casas de madera. Bueno, lo coloqué y quedo muy firme. Eso si, tuve que ir a darme una vuelta a la ferretería antes, lo cual la verdad prefiero evitar. Si trajera los taquetes sería de 6 estrellas.

This grab bar is exceptional quality, I feel. I was extremely happy with the price and installation as well. I installed it on a diagonal, which worked really well beside two shallow steps into a bedroom. The studs in that wall happen to be 24 inch centers, and I was able to get all three screws on each end, into a stud, which makes it very solid and secure. One issue I did have, was two of the screws stripped. One I was able to remove with pliers (the other I was able to get out with the driver) and I had another couple of screws here that did the job. If there was any improvement that could be made, it would be to have better quality screws, or include a couple of extra screws. An excellent product, to increase one's sense of safety around the home.