Terminator Genisys
K**M
MOSTLY-OK Pretty much everything about this movie is ok
MOSTLY-OKPretty much everything about this movie is ok. The effects are ok. The acting is ok (except for Emilia Clarke). The plot is ok. The action ..................... ok. The most disappointing aspect about this movie is in the plot, and how unoriginal it feels. In fact, the first 20ish minutes of this movie are basically plot points that the audience should be familiar with, if they're hardcore fans of the other Terminator movies, which is essentially the majority of the people still watching these movies. It begins talking about the war with the Terminators, and how Kyle Reese (played by Jai Courtney) traveled back in time, setting up the events of the first movie. Before discussing the outcome of this, and my overall opinion on this, I want to talk about the portrayal of the Terminators in the opening scene, because it seems to be a tradition in all of these movies to show the apocalypse, and what it looks like.The Opening In the first two movies, there seems to be some sort of emotional reason to show the end of the world, to raise the stakes for the protagonists, and inform the audience on what will happen if they fail to defeat the Terminators sent through time. However, in this movie, there seems to be no logical reason to have this in there, except to make it longer than 2 hours. In addition, the Terminators are MUCH MUCH MORE easily defeated in this movie than in any of the other movies. Oh well.The Plot (SPOILERS) After Kyle gets sent back in time, the movie pretty much loses all sense of its continuity, and doesn't remember the events of the second, third, and fourth movies (Didn't they completely destroy Skynet without all the time machines in the fourth one) at all. For example, now there's a liquid metal Terminator sent back, at the same time that Arnold was sent back. But in the previous scene, the movie only showed Arnie being sent back, not the guy who was Storm Shadow from the GI Joe movies........... Moving on. Reminder --- SPOILERS. Sarah rescues Kyle Reese from the Storm Shadow terminator, and then explains to him that the timeline was changed, but never how she knows this. That's the biggest problem with the plot, it's explained terribly: the movie never says how Sarah knows the original events of the first two movies, because she constantly references those movies. It is suggested that the good Arnold terminator knows all this, so possibly he told her, but who sent him back? Of course, the movie never explains this either, because it might be explained in the next sequel that nobody is going to watch. Then (REMINDER SPOILERS), it is shown that John Connor, the leader of the Resistance, the supposedly most knowledgeable character in terms of knowing how Terminators work, their behavior, and tactics, is now a Terminator. And, rather than send him to kill Sarah as a kid, or to kill her parents as kids so that she wouldnt be born, the robots decide to send John to only a couple of years before when Sarah and Kyle want to travel to. Why doesn't the dude who made John Connor a Terminator just make more human terminators and send them back, since Connor is portrayed as near unbeatable, and is so arbitrarily defeated anyways? Instead, the Doctor Who guy decides to send one terminator, only to program Skynet now renamed Genisys, which he could have done in the first place. Moving on.The Acting In my opinion, there isn't much to complain about in terms of the acting, excluding Sarah Connor and Jai Courtney, because the best character from the 2nd and 3rd movie is also the best character in this movie, and that is the T-800. It seemed that after T4, there wasn't anything left with the T-800 character, in terms of personality, and despite the worries about whether he would be good as this character, he played the part well. JK Simmons plays a character who knew Sarah and John, and is aware of the time travel aspect of the movie, and, while entertaining, does not play any role in the plot whatsoever, and therefore feels wasted. The guy playing John Connor was ok, he wasn't that good, but there's not anything that unique about his portrayal. Captain Boomerang is also.................... ok, but he never felt like Kyle Reese, in any scene at all, so that's something to worry about. The girl from Game of Thrones is........................................................................ not-good. She basically has the same facial expressions throughout the movie, and never looks scared at all in it, so she doesn't sell the potential horror aspect that the other Sarah Connor did in the first two movies. Whenever she gets mad, it looks like she's about to start crying, and the same with whenever she gets worried, which is........................................................................................................................... dumb.The Effects Meh. There's nothing that memorable in the effects or the action scenes, mostly because they don't make that much sense. For example, the T-3000 has many ways to incorporate its BS nanobots, or whatever, to effectively "terminate" targets, but rather than use this new idea to impress the audience, the T-3000 simply shoots at the heros, or by attempts to defeat Arnie through hand-to-hand combat(????), excluding the last action sequence. Oh well. I could see this movie being a least favorite of a long-term Terminator fan, or even a least favorite of a long-term action fan (????), but personally, the worst one is still T3. The problems with T5 are in the forgettable action sequences, and the confusing plot, but if you haven't see any Terminator film ever, I would sorta recommend it as long as you don't expect anything exceptional.
K**Z
1
This was a good movie, enjoyed it like all terminator movies, started watching dark fate, didn't finish yesterday, tried to finish today, now i have to buy it. I guess i won't see the ending.
K**N
Well, the series is classic, a welcome addition.
This one was very good, did not like the last one. I own this so, action movies have great replay value. The girl is super charming, can't believe she's british. Anywho, no one's gonna read this because everyone knows the franchise and the film and have predetermined if they will watch it or not.
C**N
Another lackluster sequel, with serious problems, worth watching if you can do so without investing much time, energy, or money.
I had misgivings about this film from the beginning when I first heard about it, and having just watched it (and the bonus content), I find that my misgivings were pretty much on-target.This film is a beautiful example of some nice CGI work, and it's a joy to see Arnold in the role one last time (though I'd still have preferred an earlier storyline where he was going to play a human character... "terminators" were all based upon real humans as models, apparently). There are some fun bits where elements of the first two films are played with and replicated (but not exactly identically).But the film is, in the end, a mess. I can't say that it was really a GOOD movie. It's, at best, an "OK" one.Where to start? Well, for me, the casting for this film was just disastrous. I know that they couldn't have gotten the original actors to play the original characters... for the most part, anyway... but c'mon, couldn't they at least try to get someone who we could believe is SORT OF the same person?I never had a problem with another actress playing Sarah Conner in "The Sarah Conner Chronicles," because the core aspects of the character were still all there. And recasting John Connor for that series worked well too, because, again, I could believe that this was the same person, even if it was a different actor playing the role.This time out, though, it's as though they purposefully tried to "go in a different direction" all around. Emilia Clarke is someone I LOVE as Dani in "Game of Thrones," but she's a slight, almost "etherial" wisp of a girl. She seems so YOUNG, so childlike, so innocent... and that's not something you get from Linda Hamilton, or from Lena Headey, the two other actresses who played the character. She's a fine actress, but it's just a case of being badly miscast.John Connor is played by Jason Clarke, an apparently popular Australian actor. Nothing about the character as he played him makes me think of the character seen in ANY of the prior incarnations. They were so desperate to remind us that "this is John Connor" that they overemphasized his facial scars to an almost comical level. I could believe that Eddie Furlong became Thomas Dekker who later became Christian Bale, and eventually the version we see in the "future war" sequences in Terminator 2. That was plausible, even with different actors. But this "John Connor" (even before the horrible thing done to the character in this film) never felt REMOTELY like the same character to me.Kyle Reese is played by another Aussie, Jai Courtney. He's a good enough actor, I guess... and apparently a "hearthrob" who teenage girls drool over... but he's utterly unlike the character played by Michael Biehn and ANY level whatsoever. In fact, in the "extras" they talk about this, and try to sell it as a "pro" for this film... instead of "playing the same role played by Michael Biehn," they claim that they "made the character their own" (meaning, they threw out what came before and forgot that ACTING means playing a ROLE, not "making the role your own.") I didn't like his character at any point in this film... he was just obnoxious and surly throughout, without a hint of the depth Biehn brought to the role.The one high point in the casting process (ignoring Arnold) is J.K. Simmons, who I actually liked in the role.So... casting is a problem. But that's OK if the STORYTELLING, DIRECTION, and the story itself are good enough.In this case... not-so-much. The filmmakers decided to ignore all the films except for the first two, and to "delete" both of those, during the first half-hour of the film. This came across to me as a GIMMICK, not as a strong storytelling technique. They basically took the "the future is what we make" line and said "so, that means we can redefine EVERYTHING" and moreover, "turn everything around" (another comment made in the bonus features tells us that they viewed this as a "positive.")I personally found this annoying. It also introduced a huge number of logical "holes"... for example, how did the "when Sarah is nine" terminator get sent back in the first place? How about those which got sent back in the prior films? Oh, sorry, "that never happened" now.And why is that? Because SKYNET IS NOW A PERSON. Not a computer program, but a "guy" with an actual physical body. REALLY. They talk about it, again, in the "extra features"... how Skynet "grew like a person" and became more and more "humanlike" as it did, eventually "3D printing a body" for itself. It's not a vast, sprawling computer system, running emotionless software... it's "DR WHO AS A BAD GUY!" (sigh)And apparently, Skynet the person survives the destruction of it's computer banks, because, well, it's a guy who can walk around now. And it's somehow infiltrated Connor's resistance and is serving as a soldier under Connor. People know it (as "Adam"), and work along side it, apparently. But, secretly, it has the ability to transform human beings into "piles of magnetic shavings" now... turning people into Terminators.And that's the part that killed this film for me. The screenwriters and the (clearly very young) producers... they thought that this was "unique and daring"... they made JOHN CONNOR INTO THE TERMINATOR. It's sort of like making Santa Claus into a child-rapist, which I'm sure someone will also do eventually and call "creatively daring."John Connor is the hero of the future, the savior of humanity. But, nope, not anymore. He's a pile of magnet shavings now, but is still John Connor, and he wants mom and dad to become piles of magnet shavings too, apparently, so that they can all live together happily in the nuclear-devastation which he's now fighting to make happen.(sigh)Well, "the future is not set." As far as I'm concerned, this film, and "Terminator 3," "never happened." They're some offshoot "alternate timeline" which will, hopefully, be forgotten forever.The film has its positives... good effects work, some fun bits early on calling back the original films, and two actors who I thoroughly enjoyed watching (Arnold and J.K. Simmons). And I still like Emelia Clarke... as Dani in Game of Thrones, NOT as Sarah Connor. She does her best, but it's like watching Martin Short play Conan the Barbarian... it's just a bad fit.It's worth a watch if you have some free time, and want a "popcorn flick," but I do not recommend this film for those who have limited time to spare, or who really love the Terminator mythos.
J**E
Loved it
I really enjoyed it.But, the entire school bus sequence is preposterous.They came there in an inconspicuous mini van. Why did the not leave in it instead of stealing a very conspicuous school bus?Rupturing the air system on an air brake system does not cause a loss of braking, but locks the brakes up.I seriously doubt that the drive shaft dropping and snagging on "something" would launch several tons of school bus in the air. More likely to explode the drive shaft or blow the rear axle out from under the school bus.Sarah is unlikely to be able to hold up a 220 pound man and a bag of guns and ammo with one hand.Buy it is a movie, and a willing suspension of disbelief is required to watch one.The rest of the show was very entertaining.
A**R
GREAT ACTION
Good Memorial Day entertainment for family holiday.
S**E
Worth every penny.
I honestly can't see why anybody had a problem with this movie. I enjoyed it quite a lot, they fixed some plotholes and you could tell that Arnie really gave his all in a final attempt to stay in showbusiness and I think the movie pulled it off. Granted it's been over a year that I saw it but I remember it having a great plot and some fantastic action that were for once aided by 3D and no just there for 3D's sake. If you ever enjoyed the Terminator and felt wronged by Terminator: Salvation.. well here is your chance to make it right: Get this one and get back the fun that is TERMINATOR!
I**N
Great film for fans
Love Arnie movies and love the Terminator trilogy. If so, buy it. Loads of the usual action scenes we enjoy. In 3D too, but to get the best a projector is a must for 3D and in reality any action movie really.
F**N
I'll be back
Watching big Arnie always bring back the 90s movie feeling. Great film bit 3d wasn't the best.
P**R
Not bad for a final part.
Many series conclude too late. Miami Vice, Sons of Anarchy, The Affair. They all start superbly and go on for a number of successful years. And then commerce hits in. Final season or seasons become bad, sometimes horrible. It is hard to recognize the moment one should stop. At your summit please, not in decline. This fifth and final part of the Terminator is not the best one but still worthwhile watching. 4 stars is adequate I think.
G**B
O.K.
ok,good movie.Fun,not wonderful,but good.
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